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bobo
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 Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 20:49:58
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I do believe the playpark has been put back until January 2011. Don't know where it will go but it will get built, Just hope not at Hartfields door.
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Christine Blakey
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Posted - 28 Jun 2010 : 20:57:41
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Will ask for more details tomorrow bobo. Thanks for that. I think they have at last realised that the current position is not appropriate as allowed within planning objections. They should be pleased Hartfield residents pointed it out before the build.
Hope the people who did not notice this in their high paid jobs are made accountable. If the park does not get built as soon in the new year, I will demand that heads roll! |
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lbirds2010
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 00:08:07
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When the plans for middle warren first came about, the residents of throston were told that there was going to be a housing estate, shops, a church, a school (to eventually replace throston) but there was no mention of a retirement village or play park.
i can understand why the residents of the retirement village dont want the park to close to them so surely it would not make much difference for them to move it away from that area and place it somewhere else, it would then make life easier for everyone |
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Christine Blakey
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 00:19:47
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That is what they are doing now. They have no choice with the strength of feeling shown. I am pleased but in no way satisfied as I think it is disgusting that people in their retirement and many in ill health have to endure such stress when they are paying a premium for a peaceful home.
I am keeping in touch with Leebell, HBC and also Joseph Rowntree Housing Trust and will update on here. I am saddened that there is a delay in building the park, but this is not the fault of the residents in Hartfields, it is the lack of thought during the planning stage. No one would ever think a play park was an appropriate location at that door of a retirement village! |
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Mike BC
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 00:29:37
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lbirds2010 - the play park should have been a given bearing in mind the size of the estate.
Christine - please remember the timeline, or to put it another way, no one would think locating a retirement village at the door of a proposed play park was appropriate. Why do you keep ignoring the fact that the play park was planned to be there before the retirement village? |
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MikeH
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 09:52:23
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look at the date and read the content of the bid, should answer the questions, everyone concerned with the village were aware of the park being built.
MIDDLE WARREN, HARTLEPOOL
EXTRA CARE RETIREMENT VILLAGE
BID TO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
EXTRA CARE HOUSING FUND
2005/2006
The creation of a new neighbourhood park adjoining the central facilities provides the potential of encompassing the widest possible community interaction. This open approach is considered pioneering for a sector where sheltered accommodation often ‘struggles’ to welcome its external neighbourhood, commonly citing security and safety reasons. The proposed design resolves these often conflicting objectives of a positive public interface and creating the feeling of security.
(Politicians and nappies have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.) |
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Christine Blakey
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 10:42:28
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There is another document after this which states that further consultation has been carried through given that they need to admit that the plan has had to change. Especially the school, church and football fields' proposals are relevant here as with a ignorant focus on money yet again, these plans were scrapped and money was diverted to other areas of Hartlepool such as Grayfields. The change in building applications to allow the builder to make more money are also key when noting that residents objected to the plans for more apartments for example and the residents were successful.
Noting that, the retirement village request to move the park further up into the family homes area of the estate is a logical and appropriate one. This is why those involved in setting and changing the plan have no choice but to listen and respond respecting the residents as they have done with other plans.
There is no way I would support people in objecting 'just for the sake of it' but as a resident representative I must support residents should they ask for my support. This is a professional judgement rather than a personal view or decision to look into these matters. I am also focussing rigidly on making sure that other opinions regarding the possible dropping of the park form the estate are heard and that this does not happen. I will use evidence from this thread on HTH and my own wider research to prove that dropping the park is NOT an option!
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MikeH
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 11:11:26
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What about the people who bought houses in Fieldfare Road, Chaffinch Close, Skylark Close, linnet Road, Dunlin Road etc. on the premise that a park would be built alongside their homes, long before Hartfields was built. You obviously didn't take in the contents of the report, so here it is again. "The creation of a new neighbourhood park adjoining the central facilities provides the potential of encompassing the widest possible community interaction. This open approach is considered pioneering for a sector where sheltered accommodation often ‘struggles’ to welcome its external neighbourhood, commonly citing security and safety reasons. The proposed design resolves these often conflicting objectives of a positive public interface and creating the feeling of security.
What it is saying is that HBC,the Joseph Rowntree Trust and the NHS involved in this were quite happy to have the park go ahead.
(Politicians and nappies have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.) |
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angela
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 13:30:03
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Doesn't look like there's much appetite for 'intergration' here.  |
Edited by - angela on 03 Jul 2010 13:30:18 |
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bobo
Occasional Contributor
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 18:40:52
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The park will be built as stated earlier, only it will be moved away from Hartfields, either further up or on another site altogether near to the family homes and problem solved!!!! thats were they want it, they can have it right next door to them, and then they can watch their kids playing from their windows.
Keep up the good work Christine glad you get the point. |
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ted
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 18:49:49
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| If I ever get to the point when I no longer like to hear the laughter of children then I'll know that my time is up. |
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bobo
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 18:55:30
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| I think we all like to hear the childrens laughter, but what we dont like is when all the little children have gone home to bed, and then the big children come out to play with their cider and white lightening bottles the swearing and shouting then the laughter turns to tears. |
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ted
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 19:08:27
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oh it's not that I'm not sympathetic. I think I'm just saddened that everyone has so given up that we've now reached the stage when we are allowing the yobbos to set the agenda. I guess you have to deal with how things are and not how we would like them to be. Doesn't say much for all these claims of reduced crime though does it?
The same people (police and council) who are boasting about the crime figures going down and also saying that they can't guarantee that a new park will not be infested with yobbos late at night. |
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ted
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 19:14:45
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| oh I had the beach and battery rocks NC |
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ted
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Posted - 03 Jul 2010 : 19:23:22
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I was lucky but these new rabbit hutch estates don't even allow enough space to kick a ball around and if the kids do the grown ups are fast out to chase them away from their precious fucias and B&Q water features. |
Edited by - ted on 03 Jul 2010 19:24:07 |
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Hartfields Retirement Village Play Park?
