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Boris de Pheffel
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 Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 20:22:31
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What modern stadiums need now are the facilities to make money from other operations, such as restaurants, hotels, casino, health club, spa, gym, physiotherapy, conference rooms, classrooms, shopping, etc ... If clubs get it right then the burden on supporters is reduced somewhat. Hence reduced ticket prices, attracting more supporters through the gates.
I must disagree with Secret Squirrel, however. Hartlepool United could very well be a challenger for promotion. I look at clubs such as S****horpe United and Doncaster. Very similar sized clubs. And they have punched above their weight, but done so in a sustainable way. Look at Doncaster Rovers' stadium. It is geared for challenging the bigger clubs, but in a secure way. Doncaster won't be going bankrupt.
Get the business right, and the success 'can' follow.
From speaking to 'people in the know', the takeover isn't far away. The ground being the final stumbling block. Its very clear the negotiations are advanced, the self-imposed restrictions on transfers being the ultimate evidence.
Chris Turner is a gentleman I like dearly, sadly I do believe his days in the dug-out are over. Its a fact that Chris Turner "The Manager" isn't of the same ilk that he was 97-03. However I would imagine he would step back into his DoS role, he is the perfect man for such a role.
A lot of poolie friends are getting excited, "we'll be buying him, and him, and him". I hope things aren't as exciting as that. Clubs such as Nottingham County have been a great example of why we shouldn't get too exuberant. Let's take our time. Build a solid foundation, set boundaries, live within our means, maximise non-football income, and I honestly believe our little old club could move onto the next level.
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Boris de Pheffel
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 20:24:27
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I can't help chuckling at the way the bad word within the destination name is blotted out. Brilliant.
"Wiff-waff" |
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Boris de Pheffel
Occasional Contributor
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 20:30:56
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Boris de Pheffel
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 20:36:15
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Quite. Unhealthy. Good form NoComment.
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Boris de Pheffel
Occasional Contributor
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 20:47:26
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IOR have taken a lot of criticism over the years, but they never put us at risk. The bottom line is there must be a club, and no wage demands, supporter ambition, greedy opposing club, should stand in our way of achieving security.
Its a very serious threat that clubs will be going bust, ceasing to exist. Smaller clubs like Pools must get it right. |
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no6bus
Occasional Contributor
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 21:11:21
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Originally posted by Boris de Pheffel
What modern stadiums need now are the facilities to make money from other operations, such as restaurants, hotels, casino, health club, spa, gym, physiotherapy, conference rooms, classrooms, shopping, etc ... If clubs get it right then the burden on supporters is reduced somewhat. Hence reduced ticket prices, attracting more supporters through the gates.
I must disagree with Secret Squirrel, however. Hartlepool United could very well be a challenger for promotion. I look at clubs such as S****horpe United and Doncaster. Very similar sized clubs. And they have punched above their weight, but done so in a sustainable way. Look at Doncaster Rovers' stadium. It is geared for challenging the bigger clubs, but in a secure way. Doncaster won't be going bankrupt.
Get the business right, and the success 'can' follow.
From speaking to 'people in the know', the takeover isn't far away. The ground being the final stumbling block. Its very clear the negotiations are advanced, the self-imposed restrictions on transfers being the ultimate evidence.
Chris Turner is a gentleman I like dearly, sadly I do believe his days in the dug-out are over. Its a fact that Chris Turner "The Manager" isn't of the same ilk that he was 97-03. However I would imagine he would step back into his DoS role, he is the perfect man for such a role.
A lot of poolie friends are getting excited, "we'll be buying him, and him, and him". I hope things aren't as exciting as that. Clubs such as Nottingham County have been a great example of why we shouldn't get too exuberant. Let's take our time. Build a solid foundation, set boundaries, live within our means, maximise non-football income, and I honestly believe our little old club could move onto the next level.
and thereby is the problem, can you see anybody wanting to build such a development in hartlepool. |
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Boris de Pheffel
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 22:25:22
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Boris de Pheffel
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Posted - 29 Jul 2010 : 22:29:31
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| Ahh. No then. Lol |
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seaton
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 : 14:04:09
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| I have heard there are to be further talks with the Council this week. Can any one tell me how much rent Pools pay the Council per Season? |
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Christine Blakey
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 02:02:37
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Given the financial deficit, I really feel that giving this land away with no logical reasoning is abuse of position and certainly gross misconduct.
I think everyone should be asking councillors to watch this carefully and ensure they do represent the needs of the town rather than the needs of individual councillors? |
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no6bus
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 05:45:37
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Originally posted by Christine Blakey
Given the financial deficit, I really feel that giving this land away with no logical reasoning is abuse of position and certainly gross misconduct.
I think everyone should be asking councillors to watch this carefully and ensure they do represent the needs of the town rather than the needs of individual councillors?
they are discussing SELLING the ground to the club not GIVING it to them hope that clarifies it for you |
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HeirHunter
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 06:36:04
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I think the SELLING or GIVING AWAY come down to how much money is involved in the transaction.
Knowing our council and the Mayors involvement it will be given away for peanuts. |
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HeirHunter
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 08:03:38
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Just to show how thick they are
They are pulling in 30K a year in rent but watch the price they sell it for.
Will it be 1 years value or 2 years maybe, even 3 years rent or will it be the 10K they were going to sell it for a while ago that equates to about 4 months rent.
Just a mad thought I know but it's clear Mayor Drummond will end up with a cushy job once he is gone next year, or when ever it is we become part of the Boro city.
Will it be back to Pools in a different capicity after the new firm get the ground on the cheap, will it be part of the Wynyard dream or will it be a secondry job as part of the new Boro city project.
I don't knock him for it, good luck to him but are we paying again and again to help his job prospects.
Remembering the whole smoke and mirrors things has just given me another thought.
Why is the town M.P. not making noise about the city malarky.
His suddenly making noise about the lost cause of the hospital after all the years of silence about keeping it.
It would not suprise me at all if he is making noise about the hospital knowing it's a lost cause to swerve on the city issue and detract attention to it from the town people.
Smoke and mirrors.
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HeirHunter
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 09:00:12
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Jovial
Selling it under the table for 10K until it came on top before the ink was on the paper, is not in my opinion getting the best price for it.
That in my opinion is mugging the town off |
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steveL
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 11:34:09
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| Morrisons paid millions for their land so why are we talking 'tens of thousands' for Victoria Park? |
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Hartlepool set for new mystery owners
